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In Pursuit of an Electrogravitic ‘Sweet Spot’

By way of explanation, provided here are a few basic details regarding this adjustable type Lifter. Weighing in at about 6 grams (sorry, my cheap hanging postal scale is none too accurate) the overall dimension is 28cm on either side, with each capacitor being 28cm long from end to end. Also, as mentioned elsewhere, currently using some rather nice 0.005” stainless steel wire purchased from MWS Wire Industries. My very simplified criteria for judging KV/mAmps used was to gradually turn up the power until strong, stable flight was achieved, then twisting power back down until the thread tethers were slightly loose, then slowly back up again until all four corners were stretched tight and stable. My only experimental regret was having no satisfactory method for measuring actual lifting force, so I only tried to be as consistent as possible in my standards for visual observation.

First Test ~ 4cm Foil Length

(average after 3 runs)

KVs / Amps	Capacitors @ 6cm	Capacitors @ 5cm	Capacitors @ 4cm	Capacitors @ 3cm	Capacitors @ 2cm
Wire @ 4.5cm	27.2KV / 0.9mA	27KV / 0.8mA	28KV / 0.8mA	29KV / 0.9mA	>30KV / 0.8mA
Wire @ 4.0cm	25.3KV / 0.9mA	25.3KV / 0.8mA	25.7KV / 0.8mA	27KV / 0.9mA	29.3KV / 0.9mA
Wire @ 3.5cm	23.7KV / 0.9mA	23.7KV / 0.9mA	24KV / 0.9mA	24.8KV / 0.9mA	26.8KV / 1mA
Wire @ 3.0cm	21.7KV / 0.9mA	21.7KV / 0.8mA	22KV / 1mA	22.7KV / 1mA	24KV / 1.1mA
Wire @ 2.5cm	19.8KV / 1.3mA	19.7KV / 1.3mA	20KV / 1.1mA	20KV / 1.1mA	21.1KV / 1.4mA
Wire @ 2.0cm	17.5KV / 1.5mA	17.7KV / 1.3mA	17.3KV / 1.4mA	18KV / 1.4mA	18KV / 1.4mA

Second Test Run – 3cm Foil Length

(average after 3 runs)

KVs / Amps	Capacitors @ 6cm	Capacitors @ 5cm	Capacitors @ 4cm	Capacitors @ 3cm	Capacitors @ 2cm
Wire @ 4.5cm	27.2KV / 0.9mA	27KV / 0.8mA	28KV / 0.8mA	29KV / 0.9mA	>30KV / 0.8mA
Wire @ 4.0cm	25.3KV / 0.9mA	25.3KV / 0.8mA	25.7KV / 0.8mA	27KV / 0.9mA	29.3KV / 0.9mA
Wire @ 3.5cm	23.7KV / 0.9mA	23.7KV / 0.9mA	24KV / 0.9mA	24.8KV / 0.9mA	26.8KV / 1mA
Wire @ 3.0cm	21.7KV / 0.9mA	21.7KV / 0.8mA	22KV / 1mA	22.7KV / 1mA	24KV / 1.1mA
Wire @ 2.5cm	19.8KV / 1.3mA	19.7KV / 1.3mA	20KV / 1.1mA	20KV / 1.1mA	21.1KV / 1.4mA
Wire @ 2.0cm	17.5KV / 1.5mA	17.7KV / 1.3mA	17.3KV / 1.4mA	18KV / 1.4mA	18KV / 1.4mA

As for my personal assessment of a kind of ‘sweet spot’ where maximum efficiency is achieved, realize this can be a fairly subjective opinion. Obviously, if I had access to greater than 30KV/3mAmps, it would be possible to raise the emitter wire even higher, and thus change this KV/mAmp median. To be as unbiased as possible, the objective here was discerning the optimal configuration in which KV and mAmps could both be kept to a minimum… Always constrained as I am within this 30KV/3mAmps conceptual sandbox.

Having now acknowledged experimental limitations, I do believe the results showed that when the corona wire was set at about 3.5cm, with a gap between capacitors at around 4cm to 5cm, this maintained (in my opinion) a fair balance between the KVs required to achieve lift, and mAmps drawn. No doubt this rather narrow scale of high voltage power restricted results, yet within the limits of my Glassman EH Series HV Power Supply, it preformed admirably.

As for example, with emitter wire height set at 4.5cm, and capacitor plates spaced 2cm apart, this required >30KVs, which was way too much for my puny power supply. At the other extreme of configurations possible with this adjustable Tinker Toy Lifter, with the wire was place at 2cm above the foil, and plates space at more than 5cm apart, this caused a significant jump in mAmps, accompanied by almost immediate arcing, which automatically shuts down the sensitive Glassman Power Supply. So as one might expect, when configured somewhere in the middle of these two extremes, everything works smoothly and as it should, with a proper KV/mAmp balance being maintained.

I will leave it to more disciplined minds to explain these experimental results in technical mathematical terms, as such details are just way beyond my simple mind to comprehend. Perhaps I can find time to provide additional results from future experiments, once I’ve completed a few more test runs. (With nearly 200 recorded test flights on the Tinker Toy Lifter to date… this has proven to be a most durable design)

This short video is an attempt to visualize the electrogravitic field comprised of charged ions, and see how far they extended out from the Lifter.  Through this crudely executed methodology, imagined I might better perceive was going on if I dangled small, extremely light foam objects in proximity to the surrounding field, then carefully observed any reactions. Certainly not a particularly rigorous criteria for experimental science, but an interesting video just the same.

Another lazy afternoon… And another chance to break out Lifter equipment for a quick visualization experiment. In this test, I attempt to better demonstrate the effects of ion wind on incense smoke as it swirls around within the known Lifter electrokinetic field. To be clear, the Lifter community as a whole never suggested ion wind wasn’t the primary propulsive force at work here, only that T.T. Browns own vacuum tests, hung upon fine balances, indicated there is genuinely some additional motivating principle involved with these charged asymmetrical capacitors.